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Old 04-10-2015, 12:16 AM   #21
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http://www.ocregister.com/articles/s...mit-right.html

Self-defense is cause enough for concealed weapon permit

Sheriff Sandra Hutchens has reversed her previous reversal on what constitutes “good cause” in Orange County to obtain a carry concealed weapons permit. She was responding, again, to the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals.

In Feb. 2014, a three-judge appellate panel ruled that, when issuing a permit to carry a concealed firearm, requiring more than an individual’s right to self-defense violated the Second Amendment right “to keep and bear arms.” Ms. Hutchens greatly loosened her previously tight restrictions on who got the permits.

Then, March 26, the 9th Circuit said it would hear the case “en banc,” meaning a larger panel of judges. The court effectively set aside the previous panel’s decision. According to the sheriff, in a piece published by the Register, “As a result, I must once again require CCW applicants to articulate their safety concerns and provide supporting documentation prior to being issued a permit.”

But there’s nothing the county’s chief law enforcement officer must do. Under California law, what necessitates good cause for a permit always has been up to the discretion of each county sheriff. Most counties, save for some of the most liberal in the Bay Area, Los Angeles and, now, Orange County, typically impose far less restrictive rules that recognize self-defense as a sufficient cause.

Sheriff’s Department spokesman Lt. Jeff Hallock told us the sheriff is trying to put politics aside and follow the law as understood; he attributed the latest reversal more to the problems of legislating from the bench rather than the department’s stance on CCW.

But these editorial pages are reminded of another issue with CCW permits at the beginning of the sheriff’s term of office in 2008, when she sought to impose an unrealistically harsh standard on CCW holders. While the intent was sound – to weed out permits issued improperly by her predecessor, Mike Carona – innocent, law-abiding permit holders were harmed.

The Second Amendment does not favor applicants who, for example, want a concealed-weapon permit because they carry large sums of cash, over other law-abiding citizens. The right to bear arms is an explicit right enshrined in our Constitution and repeatedy upheld by our nation’s highest court. The sheriff would be well-advised to reverse herself again on the issue before her policy effectively weakens the right to self-defense in our county.




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So the Sherriff doesn't want to recognize court decision?
So I was right and she had to back down.
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Thank you for your patience, this email is to confirm your new appointment, which is set for 6/17/15 at 8am. If we are able to advance you appointment again, you may receive another email with a new date/time. Please visit our website at www.ocsd.org/ccw to download the application and supporting document checklist.
We are located at 320 N. Flower St., Santa Ana, CA 92703.

Your appointment will start on time and we recommend you arrive 15 minutes early for processing. Please be advised bags, briefcases and purses will not allowed in the building.
You will be required to provide original documents and copies of the following for your interview: (Incomplete documentation will result in the rescheduling of your appointment)
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Im using that as my GC......

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A response from Sac Sheriff on AB 1134
First, California State Sheriff’s Association is its own political entity, and I have very little influence over what it supports or does not.
Second, I want to reassure you that there is a lot of misconception about this bill. It ALLOWS (but does not require) a sheriff to defer CCW decision-making to the chief of police if an applicant is a resident of that city. Regardless of whether the chief may deny the application, the applicant can ALWAYS then apply with the sheriff. So in other words, it allows TWO chances to get a CCW. This will have two benefits. First, it should cut down the time it takes to get a CCW, because impacted sheriffs can refer some folks to their chiefs, and secondly (and more importantly), for sheriffs that are largely unwilling to grant CCWs, it gives an applicant another avenue to try and get one.
I am very pro-CCW, so I would absolutely not support any bill that has a chilling effect on their issuance. This bill does not do that.
Hope this helps.
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So far that video is the best mockery of gun ownership that I've seen to date. Huuularious!

Awesome article on the facts of gun ownership: http://www.motherjones.com/politics/...ths-fact-check

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Myth #5: Keeping a gun at home makes you safer.
Fact-check: Owning a gun has been linked to higher risks of homicide, suicide, and accidental death by gun.
• For every time a gun is used in self-defense in the home, there are 7 assaults or murders, 11 suicide attempts, and 4 accidents involving guns in or around a home.
• 43% of homes with guns and kids have at least one unlocked firearm.
• In one experiment, one third of 8-to-12-year-old boys who found a handgun pulled the trigger.

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