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Old 07-30-2012, 09:26 PM   #11
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Sorry QH..I thought we were talking about ASA,Corva. and those guys not manufactures.

It makes sence for the Polaris and Kawasucki because now they get to sell new 4 seaters and cant be sued by all the people that modified their sxs's

but as it is wriiten I dont know how it can hold up. No kids, no people with handicaps..(ie lost limbs)

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Sorry QH..I thought we were talking about ASA,Corva. and those guys not manufactures.

It makes sence for the Polaris and Kawasucki because now they get to sell new 4 seaters and cant be sued by all the people that modified their sxs's

but as it is wriiten I dont know how it can hold up. No kids, no people with handicaps..(ie lost limbs)

Time will tell
Seems nobody in the general riding puiblic saw it coming, but sounds like the manufacturers have their hands all over it, including Kawasaki who stands out using their own name, unlike the others who hide behind the org name. For sure the manufacturers want you to buy their new 4 seaters... We'll make floor extenders to come up and meet short peoples feet. Agree though, very poorly written legislation. CPSC sucks donkey dicks
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How the fuck does a bill get introduced as this:
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Originally Posted by Original AB1595
BILL NUMBER: AB 1595 INTRODUCED
BILL TEXT


INTRODUCED BY Assembly Member Cook

FEBRUARY 6, 2012

An act to amend Sections 6051 and 6201 of the Revenue and Taxation
Code, relating to taxation, to take effect immediately, tax levy.


LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL'S DIGEST


AB 1595, as introduced, Cook. Sales and use taxes: rate reduction:
unemployment rate.
Existing law imposes a state sales and use tax on retailers and on
the storage, use, or other consumption of tangible personal property
in this state at the rate of 61/4% of the gross receipts from the
retail sale of tangible personal property in this state and of the
sales price of tangible personal property purchased from any retailer
for storage, use, or other consumption in this state.
This bill would, commencing on July 1, 2013, decrease the state
sales and use tax rate by 1/2 of 1%. This bill would require the rate
reduction to take effect only if the California unemployment rate
average for the last 2 quarters of 2012 is 8% or higher, and would
require the rate reduction to remain in effect only until the
California unemployment rate is less than 8% for 3 consecutive
quarters, as provided.
This bill would take effect immediately as a tax levy.
Vote: majority. Appropriation: no. Fiscal committee: yes.
State-mandated local program: no.


THE PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA DO ENACT AS FOLLOWS:

SECTION 1. Section 6051 of the Revenue and Taxation Code is
amended to read:
6051. (a) For the privilege of selling
tangible personal property at retail a tax is hereby imposed upon all
retailers at the rate of 21/2 percent of the gross receipts of any
retailer from the sale of all tangible personal property sold at
retail in this state on or after August 1, 1933, and to and including
June 30, 1935, and at the rate of 3 percent thereafter, and at the
rate of 21/2 percent on and after July 1, 1943, and to and including
June 30, 1949, and at the rate of 3 percent on and after July 1,
1949, and to and including July 31, 1967, and at the rate of 4
percent on and after August 1, 1967, and to and including June 30,
1972, and at the rate of 33/4 percent on and after July 1, 1972, and
to and including June 30, 1973, and at the rate of 43/4 percent on
and after July 1, 1973, and to and including September 30, 1973, and
at the rate of 33/4 percent on and after October 1, 1973, and to and
including March 31, 1974, and at the rate of 43/4 percent thereafter.

(b) (1) Notwithstanding subdivision (a), on and after July 1,
2013, the rate shall be 31/4 percent.
(2) The rate reduction required pursuant to paragraph (1) shall
only take effect if the California unemployment rate average for the
last two calendar quarters of 2012 is 8 percent or higher, and shall
remain in effect only until the end of the calendar quarter in which
the California unemployment rate is less than 8 percent for three
consecutive calendar quarters.
SEC. 2. Section 6201 of the Revenue and Taxation Code is amended
to read:
6201. (a) An excise tax is hereby imposed
on the storage, use, or other consumption in this state of tangible
personal property purchased from any retailer on or after July 1,
1935, for storage, use, or other consumption in this state at the
rate of 3 percent of the sales price of the property, and at the rate
of 21/2 percent on and after July 1, 1943, and to and including June
30, 1949, and at the rate of 3 percent on and after July 1, 1949,
and to and including July 31, 1967, and at the rate of 4 percent on
and after August 1, 1967, and to and including June 30, 1972, and at
the rate of 33/4 percent on and after July 1, 1972, and to and
including June 30, 1973, and at the rate of 43/4 percent on and after
July 1, 1973, and to and including September 30, 1973, and at the
rate of 33/4 percent on and after October 1, 1973, and to and
including March 31, 1974, and at the rate of 43/4 percent thereafter.

(b) (1) Notwithstanding subdivision (a), on and after July 1,
2013, the rate shall be 33/4 percent.
(2) The rate reduction required pursuant to paragraph (1) shall
only take effect if the California unemployment rate average for the
last two calendar quarters of 2012 is 10 percent or higher, and shall
remain in effect only until the end of the calendar quarter in which
the California unemployment rate is less than 10 percent for three
consecutive calendar quarters.
SEC. 3. This act provides for a tax levy within the meaning of
Article IV of the Constitution and shall go into immediate effect.
turn into this:
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Originally Posted by passed AB1595

BILL NUMBER: AB 1595 CHAPTERED
BILL TEXT

CHAPTER 165
FILED WITH SECRETARY OF STATE JULY 24, 2012
APPROVED BY GOVERNOR JULY 24, 2012
PASSED THE SENATE JULY 6, 2012
PASSED THE ASSEMBLY MAY 25, 2012
AMENDED IN ASSEMBLY MAY 21, 2012
AMENDED IN ASSEMBLY MAY 10, 2012
AMENDED IN ASSEMBLY MARCH 29, 2012

INTRODUCED BY Assembly Member Cook

FEBRUARY 6, 2012

An act to amend Section 38012 of, to add Section 500 to, and to
add Chapter 8 (commencing with Section 38600) to Division 16.5 of,
the Vehicle Code, relating to vehicles.


LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL'S DIGEST


AB 1595, Cook. Vehicles: recreational off-highway vehicles.
(1) Existing law establishes rules for the operation of, and
requirements for equipment of, an off-highway vehicle. A violation of
these rules and requirements is a crime.
This bill would define an off-highway motor vehicle to include a
recreational off-highway vehicle, as defined. The bill would
establish additional requirements governing the operation of a
recreational off-highway vehicle. Because a violation of these
provisions is a crime, this bill would impose a state-mandated local
program.
(2) The California Constitution requires the state to reimburse
local agencies and school districts for certain costs mandated by the
state. Statutory provisions establish procedures for making that
reimbursement.
This bill would provide that no reimbursement is required by this
act for a specified reason.


THE PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA DO ENACT AS FOLLOWS:

SECTION 1. Section 500 is added to the Vehicle Code, to read:
500. "Recreational off-highway vehicle" means a motor vehicle
meeting all of the following criteria:
(a) Designed by the manufacturer for operation primarily off of
the highway.
(b) Has a steering wheel for steering control.
(c) Has nonstraddle seating provided by the manufacturer for the
operator and all passengers.
(d) (1) Has a maximum speed capability of greater than 30 miles
per hour.
(2) A vehicle designed by the manufacturer with a maximum speed
capability of 30 miles per hour or less but is modified so that it
has a maximum speed capability of greater than 30 miles per hour
satisfies the criteria set forth in this subdivision.
(e) Has an engine displacement equal to or less than 1,000cc (61
ci).
SEC. 2. Section 38012 of the Vehicle Code is amended to read:
38012. (a) As used in this division, "off-highway motor vehicle
subject to identification" means a motor vehicle subject to
subdivision (a) of Section 38010.
(b) As used in this division, "off-highway motor vehicle"
includes, but is not limited to, the following:
(1) A motorcycle or motor-driven cycle, except for any motorcycle
that is eligible for a special transportation identification device
issued pursuant to Section 38088.
(2) A snowmobile or other vehicle designed to travel over snow or
ice, as defined in Section 557.
(3) A motor vehicle commonly referred to as a sand buggy, dune
buggy, or all-terrain vehicle.
(4) A motor vehicle commonly referred to as a jeep.
(5) A recreational off-highway vehicle as defined in Section 500.
SEC. 3. Chapter 8 (commencing with Section 38600) is added to
Division 16.5 of the Vehicle Code, to read:
CHAPTER 8. RECREATIONAL OFF-HIGHWAY VEHICLES


38600. A person operating a recreational off-highway vehicle
shall be at least 16 years of age, or be directly supervised in the
vehicle by a parent or guardian or by an adult authorized by the
parent or guardian.
38601. A person shall not operate, or allow a passenger in, a
recreational off-highway vehicle unless the person and the passenger
are wearing safety helmets meeting the requirements established for
motorcycles and motorized bicycles pursuant to Section 27802.
38602. A person operating, and any passenger in, a recreational
off-highway vehicle shall wear a seatbelt and shoulder belt or safety
harness that is properly fastened when the vehicle is in motion.
38603. A person operating a recreational off-highway vehicle
shall not allow a passenger to occupy a separate seat location not
designed and provided by the manufacturer for a passenger.
38604. A person operating a recreational off-highway vehicle
shall not ride with a passenger, unless the passenger, while seated
upright with his or her back against the seatback with both feet flat
on the floorboard, can grasp the occupant handhold with the seatbelt
and shoulder belt or safety harness properly fastened.
SEC. 4. No reimbursement is required by this act pursuant to
Section 6 of Article XIII B of the California Constitution because
the only costs that may be incurred by a local agency or school
district will be incurred because this act creates a new crime or
infraction, eliminates a crime or infraction, or changes the penalty
for a crime or infraction, within the meaning of Section 17556 of the
Government Code, or changes the definition of a crime within the
meaning of Section 6 of Article XIII B of the California
Constitution.
Looks illegal to me. Bait and switch.
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Old 07-30-2012, 11:19 PM   #17
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So we the people are the "Government" like QH says?


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"This may sound crazy but Im all for the new rules about four seaters. We have been moving away from them for awhile and now we are officially done with four seat cages for the Rhino and Teryx (we never offered one for the commander)"

Wow - from a guy who made a living selling 4 seaters for the last few years....

Hey Derwud curious to what you have to say about this??? I know you have one of the nicest Rhino builds Ive ever seen but you are kinda fucked now like me.....
When you see the crap that some people build and you have to compete against, kind of makes sense.. Tim and I have talked a lot about it over the years. Also based on the lawsuit happy Mo-Fo's, does it make sense to wanna stay in that business.

Well I might sell the Rhino to my Dad for his Cabin and buy a Kawi 4 seater!
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Is there something about the kawi 4 seater that is going to make it so kids can ride in it, Why is it any different than the other from the factory 4 seaters?
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